Its still a toy for him. Ive had a dog today, customers dog, who tried to fetch a 6x6x8 ekki (azobe) piece. Wood that sinks in water, even when completely dry. That would be him. Just for the picture. Super crazy, friendly dog. Everyone is his friend… unless… When hes closed in owners pickup, dont even try to pet him through the open window. Its his terrain and owners. He knows you, cause you can play fetch for hours, but pickup truck is his, and only his.